{"id":5329,"date":"2025-06-16T20:43:05","date_gmt":"2025-06-16T18:43:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/regions-snetap-fsu.fr\/pdl\/?p=5329"},"modified":"2025-06-16T20:47:37","modified_gmt":"2025-06-16T18:47:37","slug":"faire-entretenir-les-locaux-par-les-eleves-et-les-enseignant-es-le-snetap-fsu-sinterroge-beaucoup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/regions-snetap-fsu.fr\/pdl\/2025\/06\/16\/faire-entretenir-les-locaux-par-les-eleves-et-les-enseignant-es-le-snetap-fsu-sinterroge-beaucoup\/","title":{"rendered":"Faire entretenir les locaux par les \u00e9l\u00e8ves et les enseignant.es…Le SNETAP-FSU s’interroge…beaucoup"},"content":{"rendered":"

Le Conseil r\u00e9gional des Pays de la Loire r\u00e9fl\u00e9chit, par la mise en place d’une exp\u00e9rimentation, \u00e0, selon ses propos, \u00ab\u00a0renforcer\u00a0\u00bb l\u2019implication des usagers dans la bonne tenue des locaux. Sans connaitre tous les d\u00e9tails pr\u00e9cis de l’exp\u00e9rimentation, cela se traduirait pour les enseignants et \u00e9l\u00e8ves de participer aux t\u00e2ches du m\u00e9nage. Outre les enjeux majeurs pour l’emploi de nos coll\u00e8gues agents r\u00e9gionaux des lyc\u00e9es, pour la reconnaissance de leur professionnalisme, cette exp\u00e9rimentation tr\u00e8s courte (le Conseil r\u00e9gional pr\u00e9voit une g\u00e9n\u00e9ralisation d\u00e8s janvier 2026), pr\u00e9voit de transf\u00e9rer sur des agents de l’Etat dont le Conseil r\u00e9gional n’est pas l’employeur une nouvelle mission, une nouvelle charge (avec des enjeux majeurs sur l’hygi\u00e8ne). Pourtant, l<\/span>‘article L214-6 du code de l’\u00e9ducation pr\u00e9cise : \u00ab\u00a0La r\u00e9gion assure l’accueil, la restauration, l’h\u00e9bergement ainsi que l’entretien g\u00e9n\u00e9ral et technique, \u00e0 l’exception des missions d’encadrement et de surveillance des \u00e9l\u00e8ves, dans les \u00e9tablissements dont elle a la charge.\u00a0\u00bb<\/span><\/p>\n

Tant de questions, de r\u00e9flexions que le SNETAP-FSU va faire remonter dans les CA des lyc\u00e9es, au prochain CREA le 25 juin 2025.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Nos coll\u00e8gues de Montreuil Bellay seront concern\u00e9s d\u00e8s la rentr\u00e9e, par l’exp\u00e9rimentation…voici la motion qu’ils ont pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 lors du dernier CA.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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QUAND LA PRESSE EN PARLE<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Source\u00a0: <\/span><\/span>Yvan GEORGET et\u00a0Bruno JEOFFROY,<\/span><\/span>\u00ab\u00a0N<\/span><\/span>ettoyer ce qu\u2019ils salissent\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0: et si \u00e9l\u00e8ves et profs entretenaient les locaux de leur lyc\u00e9e\u00a0?, <\/span><\/span>Courrier de l’Ouest<\/a>, <\/span><\/span> 13\/06\/2025<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Le lyc\u00e9e agricole Edgard-Pisani de Montreuil-Bellay, dans le Maine-et-Loire, est l\u2019un des trois \u00e9tablissements de la r\u00e9gion Pays de la Loire \u00e0 exp\u00e9rimenter un dispositif visant \u00e0 faire participer les utilisateurs – \u00e9l\u00e8ves, enseignants, agents administratifs – \u00e0 l\u2019entretien des locaux. En corollaire, la question de la p\u00e9rennit\u00e9 de certains postes se pose in\u00e9vitablement.<\/span><\/p>\n

Le lyc\u00e9e Edgard-Pisani fait partie des trois \u00e9tablissements qui exp\u00e9rimentent les protocoles d\u2019entretien des locaux mis en place par les services de la R\u00e9gion.<\/span><\/p>\n

La r\u00e9gion Pays de la Loire a lanc\u00e9 depuis quelques mois une exp\u00e9rimentation dans trois lyc\u00e9es, dont le lyc\u00e9e agricole Edgard-Pisani de Montreuil-Bellay (Maine-et-Loire). Objectif, selon les termes du conseiller r\u00e9gional saumurois Eric Touron,\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0renforcer l\u2019implication des usagers\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0dans la bonne tenue des locaux. L\u2019entretien des lyc\u00e9es est en effet assur\u00e9 par des agents de la R\u00e9gion. Ils s\u2019occupent du nettoyage des locaux, des espaces verts pour certains, ou encore de la restauration. Dans le protocole construit par les services de la r\u00e9gion,\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0en lien avec le personnel\u00a0<\/span>, le test vise \u00e0 transf\u00e9rer certaines t\u00e2ches simples aux utilisateurs des lieux\u00a0: parmi eux, les enseignants, donc, les \u00e9l\u00e8ves ou encore les agents administratifs. <\/span><\/p>\n

En plus du lyc\u00e9e agricole de Montreuil-Bellay, l\u2019exp\u00e9rimentation est suivie par un lyc\u00e9e de Loire-Atlantique et par l\u2019\u00c9tablissement r\u00e9gional d\u2019enseignement adapt\u00e9 Les Terres rouges de Saint-Barth\u00e9lemy-d\u2019Anjou.\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0C\u2019est un dispositif qui est juste test\u00e9. C\u2019est \u00e9volutif et amendable\u00a0<\/span>, assure le conseiller r\u00e9gional. Dans les faits, le protocole pr\u00e9voit que les usagers participent \u00e0 certaines t\u00e2ches seulement.\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0Cela comprend par exemple l\u2019a\u00e9ration des locaux, le nettoyage des tableaux, le fait de vider les corbeilles\u2026 Cela rel\u00e8ve juste du vivre-ensemble, du bon sens et du respect que les usagers doivent aux agents d\u2019entretien dont c\u2019est le m\u00e9tier\u00a0<\/span>, relativise Eric Touron, qui pr\u00e9cise que ces derniers pourront ainsi se consacrer \u00e0 des t\u00e2ches plus importantes. <\/span><\/p>\n

<\/a> Des craintes exprim\u00e9es <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0C\u2019est aussi une mani\u00e8re de responsabiliser davantage des utilisateurs de ces lieux\u00a0<\/span>. Entre chaque passage des agents dans le foyer des \u00e9l\u00e8ves, il leur sera par exemple demand\u00e9 de ramasser les papiers qui tra\u00eenent par terre ou de passer un petit coup de balai. Ou encore de nettoyer le four \u00e0 micro-ondes ou ponctuellement laver les tables ou les chaises.\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0Finalement de nettoyer ce qu\u2019ils salissent. Ce sont des petites choses qu\u2019ils peuvent faire. Ce n\u2019est pas une r\u00e9volution non plus\u00a0<\/span>, estime Eric Touron. <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00c0 la question de savoir si une telle redistribution des t\u00e2ches aura un impact, \u00e0 terme, sur le nombre d\u2019agents de la r\u00e9gion, l\u2019\u00e9lu se veut rassurant.\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0Ils pourront se concentrer sur des missions plus essentielles. Et ce n\u2019est \u00e0 ce stade qu\u2019une exp\u00e9rimentation, m\u00eame si des craintes ont \u00e9t\u00e9 exprim\u00e9es par les repr\u00e9sentants des personnels enseignants\u00a0<\/span>. Une motion a en effet \u00e9t\u00e9 lue lors du dernier conseil d\u2019administration du lyc\u00e9e Pisani \u00e0 ce sujet.\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0C\u2019est vrai que ce n\u2019est pas leur job, ils sont avant tout l\u00e0 pour enseigner. Mais c\u2019est aussi une question de bon sens\u00a0<\/span>, explique Eric Touron, qui a pris note de ces remarques en s\u2019engageant \u00e0 les transmettre \u00e0 la R\u00e9gion. <\/span><\/p>\n

<\/a> G\u00e9n\u00e9ralisation en 2026\u00a0? <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

Dans cette motion, plusieurs inqui\u00e9tudes ont \u00e9t\u00e9 exprim\u00e9es, li\u00e9es notamment \u00e0 des locaux plus sp\u00e9cifiques comme l\u2019infirmerie mais aussi \u00e0 la sp\u00e9cificit\u00e9 d\u2019un lyc\u00e9e agricole, qui voit ses \u00e9l\u00e8ves aller et venir \u00e0 l\u2019ext\u00e9rieur pour des travaux pratiques. La derni\u00e8re remarque porte sur l\u2019opportunit\u00e9 d\u2019une exp\u00e9rimentation \u00e0 cette p\u00e9riode de l\u2019ann\u00e9e, alors que le lyc\u00e9e compte d\u00e9j\u00e0 beaucoup moins d\u2019\u00e9l\u00e8ves et de personnels enseignants, \u00e0 quelques semaines des vacances scolaires et en pleine p\u00e9riode d\u2019examens.\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0Ils demandent que le dispositif soit test\u00e9 plus longtemps. Ce sera probablement prolong\u00e9 jusqu\u2019aux vacances de la Toussaint pour, si cela est probant, \u00eatre g\u00e9n\u00e9ralis\u00e9 dans tous les lyc\u00e9es en janvier\u00a02026 ou en septembre\u00a02026\u00a0<\/span>, indique Eric Touron.\u00a0En corollaire, se pose in\u00e9vitablement la question de la p\u00e9rennit\u00e9 de certains postes d\u2019agents. <\/span><\/p>\n

L\u2019\u00c9tablissement r\u00e9gional d\u2019enseignement adapt\u00e9 Les Terres rouges de Saint-Barth\u00e9lemy-d\u2019Anjou a exp\u00e9riment\u00e9 les nouveaux protocoles pendant trois semaines. <\/span><\/p>\n

<\/a> Exp\u00e9rience termin\u00e9e aux Terres Rouges \u00e0 Saint-Barth\u00e9lemy-d\u2019Anjou <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

La R\u00e9gion a \u00e9galement choisi l\u2019\u00e9tablissement r\u00e9gional d\u2019enseignement adapt\u00e9 Les Terres Rouges \u00e0 Saint-Barth\u00e9lemy-d\u2019Anjou. L\u2019exp\u00e9rimentation est termin\u00e9e. Elle a dur\u00e9 trois semaines. Pour chaque fiche de poste, les intervenants (\u00e9quipe \u00e9ducative, \u00e9l\u00e8ves, agents) devaient faire remonter leurs observations sur la faisabilit\u00e9, tant sur les moyens \u00e0 disposition que sur le temps d\u00e9volu pour remplir la t\u00e2che. On sent tr\u00e8s bien la difficult\u00e9 pour la direction de l\u2019\u00e9tablissement d\u2019\u00e9voquer cette exp\u00e9rimentation mise en place par la R\u00e9gion.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Le Conseil r\u00e9gional des Pays de la Loire r\u00e9fl\u00e9chit, par la mise en place d’une exp\u00e9rimentation, \u00e0, selon ses propos, \u00ab\u00a0renforcer\u00a0\u00bb l\u2019implication des usagers dans la bonne tenue des locaux. Sans connaitre tous les d\u00e9tails pr\u00e9cis de l’exp\u00e9rimentation, cela se traduirait pour les enseignants et \u00e9l\u00e8ves de participer aux t\u00e2ches du m\u00e9nage. 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