{"id":5036,"date":"2024-01-02T19:26:31","date_gmt":"2024-01-02T18:26:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/regions-snetap-fsu.fr\/pdl\/?p=5036"},"modified":"2024-01-02T19:27:44","modified_gmt":"2024-01-02T18:27:44","slug":"une-delegation-du-snetap-fsu-rencontre-mr-schaeffer-directeur-du-pole-social-region-pays-de-la-loire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/regions-snetap-fsu.fr\/pdl\/2024\/01\/02\/une-delegation-du-snetap-fsu-rencontre-mr-schaeffer-directeur-du-pole-social-region-pays-de-la-loire\/","title":{"rendered":"Une d\u00e9l\u00e9gation du SNETAP-FSU rencontre  M.SCHAEFFER, Directeur du P\u00f4le Social R\u00e9gion Pays de la Loire"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"font-size: 18pt;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;\">Voici le compte- rendu de r\u00e9union du 4 d\u00e9cembre 2023<\/span> <span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;\">(en visio)<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><i><u><b>Pr\u00e9ambule<\/b><\/u><\/i><i><b> : La R\u00e9gion fait des annonces\u00a0: c\u2019est bien mais pas suffisant\u2026.<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Loi 3DS : cr\u00e9ation de 5 postes (11 en tout) pour que chaque agent encadrant ait un N+1 pour r\u00e9guler les conflits (probl\u00e9matique d\u2019emplois du temps par exemple). C<\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">haque personne aura en charge une dizaine de lyc\u00e9es. C<\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">e sera effectif le 1er janvier mais fonctionnel le 1er septembre.<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Cr\u00e9ation de 15 postes pour les lyc\u00e9es en Pays de la Loire, dont un poste \u00e0 Brette les Pins normalement.<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Budget : + 1 million d\u2019euros car cr\u00e9ation de 15 postes + renforts, hausse du point d\u2019indice, hausse du SMIC, refonte de la grille de la cat\u00e9gorie C.<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Difficult\u00e9 de <\/span>recrutement<span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">\u00a0: manque<\/span><\/span><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> d\u2019attractivit\u00e9 en restauration et m\u00e9nage.<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><i><b>Nous prenons acte de ces annonces avec la satisfaction d\u2019un poste \u00e0 Brette les Pins mais au regard des 115 lyc\u00e9es lig\u00e9riens dont 10 lyc\u00e9es agricoles et un lyc\u00e9e maritime publics et dans un contexte de construction de nouveaux lyc\u00e9es, l\u2019effort n\u2019est peut-\u00eatre pas \u00e0 la hauteur\u2026.<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><i><u><b>Nos demandes<\/b><\/u><\/i><i><b> :<\/b><\/i><i> <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\"><i><b>1. Am\u00e9liorer le sort des agents les plus pr\u00e9caires<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Nous commen\u00e7ons avec la question <\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>des contrats<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> des agent(e)s contractuels, souvent de trop courte dur\u00e9e et hors p\u00e9riode de vacances avec comme cons\u00e9quence l\u2019absence de permanence et donc des \u00e9tablissements pas toujours pr\u00e9par\u00e9s pour la (es) rentr\u00e9e(s) et de la <\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>formation de ces agents<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">: il serait bien d\u2019avoir un contact au lyc\u00e9e avant le recrutement pour bien expliquer les attentes et ainsi \u00e9viter les personnes qui viennent une journ\u00e9e et s\u2019en vont car le travail ne leur correspond pas<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">R\u00e9ponse : les contrats ne sont pas coup\u00e9s pendant les \u201cpetites\u201d vacances et le p\u00f4le social r\u00e9fl\u00e9chit \u00e0 des contrats plus longs.<\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u> Dossier donc \u00e0 suivre<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">.<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><i><b>2. Am\u00e9liorer les conditions de travail des agents <\/b><\/i><\/span><i> <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Nous poursuivons la th\u00e9matique <\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>des \u00e9quipes qui ne sont pas compl\u00e8tes<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> avec toutes les cons\u00e9quences induites: personnel restant en difficult\u00e9 physiquement (tr\u00e8s fatigu\u00e9) et moralement, ce qui \u00e0 moyen et long terme, affaiblit encore les \u00e9quipes et d\u00e9grade le service aux usagers. Nous refusons ce mode de fonctionnement en d\u00e9grad\u00e9<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">.<\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>R\u00e9ponse<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> : La R\u00e9gion est confront\u00e9e \u00e0 une grosse augmentation de \u201cl\u2019absent\u00e9isme\u201d ( Terme \u201cvalise\u201d qui peut correspondre pour une partie des agents \u00e0 des cong\u00e9s maladie relevant de la p\u00e9nibilit\u00e9 et de la souffrance au travail )<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><b>Face \u00e0 cette situation, nous demandons <\/b><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><b>un renforcement des \u00e9quipes mobiles de rempla\u00e7ant (e)s titulaires et contractuels en nombre et en \u201cterritorialisation\u201d ces \u00e9quipes.<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Nous posons aussi la question <\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>du tuilage quand une personne encadrante s\u2019en va en retraite<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">, question de continuit\u00e9 de la qualit\u00e9 du service public et de \u201c3\u00e8me carri\u00e8re\u201d pour les agents: pour l\u2019agent partant, avoir des missions de tutorat reconnues.<\/i><\/li>\n<li>\u00a0<i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>R\u00e9ponse<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> : non, car il ne peut y avoir 2 personnes sur le m\u00eame poste<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><i>Nous demandons pour finir la th\u00e9matique \u201cagent(e)<\/i><i><u> l&rsquo;envoi d\u2019organigramme complet<\/u><\/i><i> ( titulaires et contractuels) dans les \u00e9tablissements<\/i><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\"><i><b>3. Toujours faire reconna\u00eetre la sp\u00e9cificit\u00e9 des lyc\u00e9es agricoles publics<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Nous abordons encore un fois <\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>la reconnaissance de la sp\u00e9cificit\u00e9 des lyc\u00e9es agricoles<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">, notamment sur les postes d\u2019entretien des espaces verts par lyc\u00e9e avec une situation particuli\u00e8re: qu&rsquo;en est-il pour le poste \u00e0 P\u00e9tr\u00e9 quand l\u2019agent partira \u00e0 la retraite en septembre 2024 <\/i><\/li>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>Pas de r\u00e9ponse <\/u><\/i><\/li>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Nous redisons<\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u> notre demande d\u2019une visite partag\u00e9e<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> R\u00e9gion\/ Repr\u00e9sentants des personnels et syndicaux et Direction pour revoir les dotations globales d\u2019agents (historiquement, nous partons du principe qu\u2019il y a eu sous-dotation\u2026) au regard de missions qui ont \u00e9volu\u00e9 ex) nous louons nos salles ce qui engendre plus de travail pour les agents <\/i><\/li>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">R\u00e9ponse: il y aura bien la visite d\u2019un \u00e9tablissement agricole par an : Le Mans ou P\u00e9tr\u00e9 en 2024 ?<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;\"><i><b>4. Questions diverses<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>Question diverse sur les agents encadrants<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> (qui sont responsables de leur \u00e9quipe, font le lien avec le gestionnaire\u2026) ne se sentent pas soutenus par la r\u00e9gion, ils sont sur un poste de cat\u00e9gorie B alors qu\u2019ils ont un salaire de cat\u00e9gorie C, serait-il possible de les passer en cat\u00e9gories B ? <\/i><\/li>\n<li><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>R\u00e9ponse<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> : Non, il faut qu\u2019ils passent le concours, peu de promotion en interne<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>Question diverse sur<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> <\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>changement de tarification<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"> des repas pour les agents, d\u00e9lib\u00e9ration dans les CA (revoir le tarif entre 2,90 et 3,50 ; \u00e0 suivre) <\/i><\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><u>Question diverse concernant les travaux dans les lyc\u00e9es<\/u><\/i><i style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">: pr\u00e9voir un calendrier, demande \u00e0 transmettre \u00e0 la Direction du Patrimoine. Pour le Grand Blottereau, dossier en attente de r\u00e9unions avec Nantes m\u00e9tropole, la Mairie et les architectes.<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><i><b>Les repr\u00e9sentants SNETAP- FSU, membres de la d\u00e9l\u00e9gation.<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><i><b>G.Richard- E.Lory- P.Sorlut- V.Bouget<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Voici le compte- rendu de r\u00e9union du 4 d\u00e9cembre 2023 (en visio) Pr\u00e9ambule : La R\u00e9gion fait des annonces\u00a0: c\u2019est bien mais pas suffisant\u2026. Loi 3DS : cr\u00e9ation de 5 postes (11 en tout) pour que chaque agent encadrant ait un N+1 pour r\u00e9guler les conflits (probl\u00e9matique d\u2019emplois du temps par exemple). 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