{"id":4997,"date":"2025-04-17T14:37:19","date_gmt":"2025-04-17T12:37:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/regions-snetap-fsu.fr\/na\/?p=4997"},"modified":"2025-04-19T13:48:49","modified_gmt":"2025-04-19T11:48:49","slug":"formation-specialisee-f3sct-07-04-2025-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/regions-snetap-fsu.fr\/na\/2025\/04\/17\/formation-specialisee-f3sct-07-04-2025-2\/","title":{"rendered":"FORMATION SPECIALISEE \u2013 F3SCT \u2013 07 04 2025"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t
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FORMATION SPECIALISEE \u2013 F3SCT \u2013 07 04 2025<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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La\u00a0F3SCT\u00a0Nouvelle Aquitaine (Formation sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9e en mati\u00e8re de sant\u00e9, de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 et des conditions de travail) \u00e9tait convoqu\u00e9e pour une r\u00e9union le lundi 7 avril 2025\u00a0\u00e0 la DRAAF de Limoges.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>

Pour l\u2019\u00c9lan\u00a0commun,\u00a0ont si\u00e9g\u00e9\u00a0Laurent Bourhis, Lydie Dubois,\u00a0Alain Godot,\u00a0Yannick Le Blanc, Philippe Parodi, Diane Raffour.<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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Six points figuraient \u00e0 l\u2019ordre du jour\u00a0:<\/p>

1 \u2013 Approbation du projet de PV de la s\u00e9ance du 12 novembre 2024
2 \u2013 CoHS remont\u00e9e des \u00e9tablissements
3 \u2013 Cellule d\u2019\u00e9coute
4 \u2013 Visite de locaux
5 \u2013 D\u00e9marche \u00c9galit\u00e9 \/ Diversit\u00e9 dans l\u2019enseignement agricole
6 \u2013 Questions diverses<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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Madame la DRAAF adjointe ouvre la s\u00e9ance en rappelant le vote\u00a0r\u00e9cent\u00a0de la\u00a0loi d\u2019orientation pour la souverainet\u00e9 agricole et le renouvellement des g\u00e9n\u00e9rations en agriculture.\u00a0Elle souligne les objectifs\u00a0de cette loi\u00a0en rapport direct avec l\u2019enseignement\u00a0: augmentation des effectifs de 30\u00a0%, cr\u00e9ation d\u2019un \u00ab\u00a0DASEN agri\u00a0\u00bb et du \u00ab\u00a0Bachelor Agro\u00a0\u00bb. Toutefois, aucune pr\u00e9cision r\u00e9gionale n\u2019est apport\u00e9e notamment quant aux EPL concern\u00e9s par ce nouveau dipl\u00f4me.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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1 \u2013 Approbation du projet de PV de la s\u00e9ance du 12 novembre 2024<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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L\u2019\u00c9lan commun a profit\u00e9 de l\u2019approbation du projet de PV de la r\u00e9union pr\u00e9c\u00e9dente pour interroger la DRAAF sur les suites donn\u00e9es \u00e0 l\u2019enqu\u00eate\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0Article\u00a064\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0au LEGTPA\u00a0de\u00a0Magnac-Laval.<\/p>

Sur ce dossier, l\u2019Administration s\u2019obstine \u00e0 refuser la reconnaissance de l\u2019accident de travail de l\u2019agent. De ce fait, elle ne reconna\u00eet pas la comp\u00e9tence de la F3SCT et refuse sa saisine\u2026 Cette saisine a pourtant \u00e9t\u00e9 ordonn\u00e9e par une d\u00e9cision de justice et appliqu\u00e9e en juillet dernier. Interpr\u00e9tant de mani\u00e8re incompr\u00e9hensible le jugement en appel, elle d\u00e9cide maintenant unilat\u00e9ralement de la nullit\u00e9 juridique de la proc\u00e9dure enclench\u00e9e\u00a0! Elle affirme que les requ\u00e9rants n\u2019ont pas introduit de nouvelles \u00e9critures suite \u00e0 l\u2019appel en Conseil d\u2019\u00c9tat. Pour elle le dossier est donc clos et la d\u00e9cision du CE fait jurisprudence.<\/p>

L\u2019\u00c9lan commun rappelle que le Conseil d\u2019\u00c9tat n\u2019a pas jug\u00e9 cette affaire sur le fond mais n\u2019a r\u00e9pondu qu\u2019\u00e0 la demande de r\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9. La r\u00e9ponse de la DRAAF est donc simplement hors sujet.<\/p>

En revanche,\u00a0la DRAAF\u00a0reconna\u00eet implicitement sa difficult\u00e9 sur ce dossier en\u00a0proposant que\u00a0l\u2019Inspection\u00a0en Sant\u00e9 et S\u00e9curit\u00e9 au Travail (ISST)\u00a0soit saisie du\u00a0d\u00e9saccord profond et s\u00e9rieux sur\u00a0le refus de l\u2019administration r\u00e9gionale de laisser la F3SCT se saisir du dossier et \u00e0 enqu\u00eater.<\/p>

L\u2019\u00c9lan commun d\u00e9nonce cette position incompr\u00e9hensible puisque le d\u00e9saccord profond et s\u00e9rieux ne porte pas sur la comp\u00e9tence de la commission mais bien sur les conclusions de l\u2019enqu\u00eate r\u00e9alis\u00e9e. Il demande que l\u2019Inspection du Travail soit maintenant saisie.<\/p>

Suite \u00e0 cette situation, l\u2019\u00c9lan commun porte \u00e0 la connaissance de la F3SCT le \u00ab\u00a0protocole\u00a0<\/i>de traitement d\u2019une<\/i>\u00a0alerte suicidaire\u00a0<\/i>d\u2019un personnel<\/i>\u00a0\u00bb utilis\u00e9 par l\u2019acad\u00e9mie de Strasbourg et demande qu\u2019un travail soit engag\u00e9 sur le sujet afin d\u2019avoir une proc\u00e9dure en place pour guider les personnels face \u00e0 une alerte de cette nature.<\/p>

L\u2019ISST a connaissance de ce protocole mais les repr\u00e9sentant.es de la DRAAF s\u2019interrogent sur l\u2019existence d\u2019une r\u00e9flexion nationale alors que diff\u00e9rentes situations remontent r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement sur le sujet, notamment au travers des cellules d\u2019\u00e9coute.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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2 \u2013 COHS \u2013 remont\u00e9e des \u00e9tablissements<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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Une remont\u00e9e statistique des avis des CoHS est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e aux membres de la F3S sans d\u00e9tails sur la gravit\u00e9 des situations, ni sur les EPL concern\u00e9s.<\/p>

Pour l\u2019\u00c9lan commun ces \u00e9l\u00e9ments sont insuffisants. Il demande \u00e0 \u00eatre destinataire des avis de chaque CoHS et rappelle que l\u2019article 20 du\u00a0d\u00e9cret n\u00b0 2021-1316 du 8 octobre 2021 relatif\u00a0aux CoHS\u00a0pr\u00e9voit que \u00ab\u00a0l<\/i>es avis de la commission d\u2019hygi\u00e8ne et de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 pr\u00e9vus par le pr\u00e9sent d\u00e9cret sont transmis au comit\u00e9 social d\u2019administration comp\u00e9tent<\/i>.\u00a0\u00bb<\/p>

Une formation des \u00e9lu.es est pr\u00e9vue du 16 au 23 septembre 25 \u00e0 Pau, Libourne, Limoges et Bressuire et Saintes. L\u2019\u00c9lan commun encourage cette formation mais regrette le calendrier retenu puisqu\u2019elle concernera les CoHS \u00ab\u00a0sortantes\u00a0\u00bb et pas les nouveaux membres qui sont nomm\u00e9s \u00e0 partir d\u2019octobre.<\/p>

L\u2019\u00c9lan commun demande que la formation des membres de CoHS soit rendue obligatoire et sur le temps de travail et pr\u00e9conise un suivi en groupe et sur site de la formation \u00ab\u00a0CoHS-Mentor\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>

Deux assistant.es de pr\u00e9vention sont nomm\u00e9.es \u00e0 Bourcefranc. L\u2019\u00c9lan commun demande la liste de l\u2019ensemble des Assistant.es de Pr\u00e9vention.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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Suite \u00e0 ces d\u00e9bats, la F3SCT, \u00e0 l\u2019unanimit\u00e9, prend deux avis\u00a0:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>

1 \u2013 Concernant la formation des membres des COHS, la F3SCT demande \u00e0 ce que les membres des COHS soient fortement incit\u00e9s \u00e0 participer \u00e0 la formation, dans le cadre de la formation continue professionnelle, sur leur temps de travail.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>

2 \u2013 Concernant les registres SST, la F3SCT demande que les directions des \u00e9tablissements s\u2019assurent, \u00e0 chaque rentr\u00e9e scolaire, de la localisation et de la facilit\u00e9 d\u2019acc\u00e8s au registre sant\u00e9 et s\u00e9curit\u00e9 au travail et que les directions s\u2019assurent de la communication de cette information \u00e0 tous les personnels.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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3 \u2013 Cellule d\u2019\u00e9coute<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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Deux agents ont \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9cout\u00e9s depuis la derni\u00e8re r\u00e9union de la F3S. Ce sont des situations difficiles puisqu\u2019il y a une alerte suicidaire.<\/p>

L\u2019\u00c9lan commun rappelle que la saisine de la cellule d\u2019\u00e9coute ne doit pas emp\u00eacher ou limiter celle du CSA-F3SCT pour une \u00e9ventuelle enqu\u00eate.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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4 \u2013 Visite de locaux<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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Concernant la visite \u00e0 Bourcefranc, le travail du SRFD est remarqu\u00e9 avec notamment la cr\u00e9ation d\u2019un poste de D2 pour la partie agricole de l\u2019\u00e9tablissement. Toutefois, des difficult\u00e9s subsistent malgr\u00e9 l\u2019instauration de nouvelles pratiques visant \u00e0 plus d\u2019efficience administrative et \u00e0 restaurer de la convivialit\u00e9 au sein de la communaut\u00e9 \u00e9ducative.<\/p>

Par contre, l\u2019\u00c9lan commun regrette qu\u2019aucun poste administratif suppl\u00e9mentaire ne soit cr\u00e9\u00e9\u00a0; la DRAAF n\u2019\u00e9tant en capacit\u00e9 de s\u2019engager que pour un demi poste d\u2019ajustement.<\/p>

L\u2019\u00c9lan commun souligne les \u00e9l\u00e9ments suivants :<\/p>

\u2013 \u00e0 la vie scolaire des quotit\u00e9s de travail, voire des emplois, sont en jeu. Le SRFD appuie cette remarque,<\/p>

\u2013 au service administratif la secr\u00e9taire cat\u00e9gorie C (\u00c9ducation Nationale) r\u00e9alise un travail \u00e9norme, devant ma\u00eetriser les proc\u00e9dures des deux minist\u00e8res. Le SRFD reconna\u00eet la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 d\u2019un meilleur affichage des postes,<\/p>

\u2013 les d\u00e9cisions du SRFD concernant la DGH pour la rentr\u00e9e 2025 vont cr\u00e9er \u00e0 nouveaux des tensions et d\u00e9t\u00e9riorer les conditions de travail avec notamment la situation du poste actuel 100% en aquaculture transform\u00e9 en 50% AE.<\/p>

La prochaine visite est pr\u00e9vue \u00e0 P\u00e9rigueux le 20 mai 2025.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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La DRAAF fait une pr\u00e9sentation de l\u2019action de labellisation nationale en partenariat avec l\u2019AFNOR et SIA Partners. Quelques EPL sont concern\u00e9s en Nouvelle Aquitaine pour la rentr\u00e9e prochaine, tous les EPL seront concern\u00e9s d\u2019ici 2029.<\/p>

L\u2019\u00c9lan commun rappelle que la promotion de l\u2019\u00e9galit\u00e9, de la mixit\u00e9 professionnelle et la lutte contre les discriminations sont des valeurs port\u00e9es par la R\u00e9publique, les Services Publics et particuli\u00e8rement l\u2019Enseignement Agricole Public. Il d\u00e9nonce cette politique de labellisation et rappelle que l\u2019Administration Publique n\u2019est pas une entreprise. Il souligne aussi le co\u00fbt et le temps \u00e0 y consacrer.<\/p>

Selon la DRAAF, le co\u00fbt sera support\u00e9 par le Minist\u00e8re directement.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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61 \u2013 L\u2019\u00c9lan commun alerte sur la situation de l\u2019EPL de Surg\u00e8res o\u00f9 l\u2019on compte de nombreux arr\u00eats de travail et des d\u00e9cisions administratives qui posent question quant \u00e0 la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 des agents.<\/p>

La DRAAF se contente d\u2019indiquer le nombre d\u2019arr\u00eats de longue dur\u00e9e et d\u2019accident du travail et va se rapprocher de l\u2019\u00e9tablissement.<\/p>

62 \u2013 L\u2019\u00c9lan commun alerte sur l\u2019application du statut d\u2019emploi au DEA-AT issus du corps de IAE. Le manque de reconnaissance financi\u00e8re am\u00e8ne certains agents \u00e0 quitter leurs fonctions ce qui entra\u00eene une perte de comp\u00e9tences importante. Pour la DRAAF, il n\u2019y a pas d\u2019effet financier n\u00e9gatif, seules les contraintes li\u00e9es \u00e0 la mobilit\u00e9 expliquent ces d\u00e9parts.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

FORMATION SPECIALISEE \u2013 F3SCT \u2013 07 04 2025 La\u00a0F3SCT\u00a0Nouvelle Aquitaine (Formation sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9e en mati\u00e8re de sant\u00e9, de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 et des conditions de travail) \u00e9tait convoqu\u00e9e pour une r\u00e9union le lundi 7 avril 2025\u00a0\u00e0 la DRAAF de Limoges. Pour l\u2019\u00c9lan\u00a0commun,\u00a0ont si\u00e9g\u00e9\u00a0Laurent Bourhis, Lydie Dubois,\u00a0Alain Godot,\u00a0Yannick Le Blanc, Philippe Parodi, Diane Raffour. 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