{"id":4442,"date":"2020-02-14T15:11:56","date_gmt":"2020-02-14T14:11:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/regions-snetap-fsu.fr\/hdf\/?p=4442"},"modified":"2020-02-14T15:11:56","modified_gmt":"2020-02-14T14:11:56","slug":"la-jungle-de-la-mixite-ou-plutot-du-mixage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/regions-snetap-fsu.fr\/formation\/2020\/02\/14\/la-jungle-de-la-mixite-ou-plutot-du-mixage\/","title":{"rendered":"La jungle de la mixit\u00e9 ou plut\u00f4t du mixage."},"content":{"rendered":"

La jungle de la mixit\u00e9 ou plut\u00f4t du mixage.<\/span><\/h2>\n
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La loi dite P\u00e9nicaud portant sur le choix de son avenir professionnel a chang\u00e9 le rapport entre la formation initiale scolaire et l\u2019apprentissage. Chez nous, dans l\u2019enseignement agricole public, la pr\u00e9sence des 3 voies de r\u00e9formes dans les EPL am\u00e8ne des directions, des DRAAF et, bien s\u00fbr, la DGER a envisag\u00e9 le mixage des publics initiaux scolaire et apprentissage…<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Attention, la loi n\u2019a rien chang\u00e9 et encore moins cadr\u00e9 sur le mixage des publics\u00a0!<\/strong> <\/span><\/h3>\n

Cette loi rend juste plus facile l\u2019ouverture de formation en apprentissage, il suffit de dire \u00ab j\u2019ouvre \u00bb et ensuite d\u2019attendre une certification qui, de toute fa\u00e7on, ne fait pas entrer en compte la p\u00e9dagogie. Pire, l\u2019OPCA (Organisme Paritaire Collecteur Agr\u00e9\u00e9) et le comit\u00e9 de gestion des programmes s\u2019occupant du programme \u00ab agriculture, industrie agro-alimentaire \u00bb ne fait intervenir que les services financiers de la DGER. Les repr\u00e9sentant\u00b7es du syst\u00e8me \u00e9ducatif sont absent\u00b7es des consultations sur le financement et les nouveaux programmes de l\u2019apprentissage.<\/span><\/p>\n

Le gouvernement peut se f\u00e9liciter de la multiplication des contrats d\u2019apprentissage car il a d\u00e9truit toutes les barri\u00e8res qui garantissaient la place des mati\u00e8res g\u00e9n\u00e9rales, la possibilit\u00e9 de poursuite d\u2019\u00e9tudes mais aussi l\u2019ind\u00e9pendance de la formation de l\u2019employeur.<\/span><\/p>\n

Il ne reste que l\u2019employabilit\u00e9 \u00e0 court terme.<\/span><\/p>\n

Et le mixage\u00a0?<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

Le mixage des publics n\u2019est pas dans le texte. C\u2019est la jungle\u00a0!<\/span><\/p>\n

Un financement d\u2019apprentissage ne peut financer des heures d\u2019enseignements lyc\u00e9es que sous forme de vacations\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n

Le rythme du mixage est cal\u00e9 sur le rythme d\u2019apprentissage car sinon, le contrat d\u2019apprentissage n\u2019est pas valable.<\/span><\/p>\n

Les entreprises souhaitent, tr\u00e8s souvent, garder la partie pratique chez elle car elle permet de faire travailler l\u2019apprenti\u00b7e mais que faire des voies scolaires ?<\/span><\/p>\n

Comment \u00e9valuer simultan\u00e9ment des \u00e9l\u00e8ves qui n\u2019ont pas la m\u00eame formation (classe ou entreprise) et pas le m\u00eame \u00e9valuateur (employeur, formateur, enseignant) ?<\/span><\/p>\n

Enfin, quel statut pour les \u00e9l\u00e8ves, ils\u00b7elles d\u00e9pendent d\u2019un employeur (salari\u00e9\u00b7e), de la vie scolaire (\u00e9l\u00e8ves ou \u00e9tudiant\u00b7es), du r\u00e8glement int\u00e9rieur du lyc\u00e9e, de l’UFA (exCFA pour les Hauts-de-France) ou du code du travail\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n

La jungle\u2026<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

Dans chaque \u00e9tablissement o\u00f9 le mixage est mis en \u0153uvre, c\u2019est la jungle, il n\u2019y a jamais de r\u00e9ponse lisible. C\u2019est le r\u00e8gne du rapport de force et de la gestion de crise. On est tr\u00e8s loin de l\u2019innovation p\u00e9dagogique\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n

La plupart du temps, on met en place un planning de l\u2019apprentissage et on s\u2019arrange, tant bien que mal, de faire entrer la formation initiale scolaire au m\u00e9pris des \u00e9l\u00e8ves qui ont choisi l\u2019initial scolaire et qui se retrouve de fait en apprentissage la plupart du temps.<\/span><\/p>\n

En conclusion
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Si l\u2019EPL peut demander par centre des ouvertures de formation, le rythme de celle-ci se d\u00e9cide par centre. Si une formation existe en scolaire et en apprentissage, c\u2019est le conseil de centre et le conseil int\u00e9rieur qui d\u00e9cide ind\u00e9pendamment du rythme de chaque formation. Si l\u2019avis d\u2019un de ces conseils est d\u00e9favorable, le CA ne peut valider le mixage\u00a0!<\/span><\/p>\n

Un EPL n\u2019a aucun int\u00e9r\u00eat pour les \u00e9l\u00e8ves, les apprenti\u00b7es ou les agent\u00b7es d\u2019entrer dans le mixage. Seule la DRAAF et la DGER ont un int\u00e9r\u00eat \u00e0 ce type de man\u0153uvre pour faire croire que des formations ferm\u00e9es par le Minist\u00e8re existent toujours.<\/span><\/p>\n

Le seul r\u00e9sultat concret du mixage est la jungle de la d\u00e9r\u00e8glementation.<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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